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Posted By Martin P 12/25/2019 6:18:23 PM
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Martin P
 Posted 12/25/2019 6:18:23 PM
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Newbie here, I’m not a digger or collector but live and work in Whitstable KENT, I build beach huts for a living and recently when digging a post hole 5” x 5” I hit the right spot and found 2 intact bottles in the clay of Tankerton slopes on the coast.

One a stone ginger ale bottle from nearby Canterbury and the other and more relevant to me as from Whitstable.
It is a The Native Whitstable codds bottle with an oyster on the front and The Ryland Barnsley 4 on the rear.

I’m looking for any history on it if anyone has any and should anyone be interested in it for their collection get in touch pls cheers guys
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Nice finds, well done
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What does the Canterbury GB look like ? Could be rare !

Wanted --- any unusual items from Kent & the South East, including advertising, early stoneware, & bottles (of course!).  Also rare patent poisons, early pontilled medicines, & rare burst lip/teakettle inks.

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Hi Martin,

Nice find! I also live in Whitstable, and collect bottles from Whitstable and Canterbury. How tall is that codd bottle? They come in two different sizes, and I can't quite tell from the photos whether that is the 10oz or the 6oz. The larger ones are pretty common, but the small size are harder to find. If it is the small size then I would be interested in it.

The company operated out of a building (which is still there) at the back of what is now Cheadles chemists on the corner of the High Street and Argyle Road. Historically, many of the early mineral water producers were also chemists, and that shop has been a chemists for a very long time. The first person to manufacture mineral water there was a Herbert Adams, who opened a chemists shop there in 1885 having traded earlier from different premises. In 1887, the business was bought by a George Arrowsmith who also operated a mineral water business from the back of his chemists. The business was split in 1901, with the chemists being sold to an F.T. Couper, and the mineral water company being merged with two other local firms in 1902 and relocating to Essex Street (where the garage is today).

In 1903, a man named William Rowden (who had previously worked for one of the other local companies) bought the mineral water factory in partnership with a Harold John Lloyd Kemp, and the pair traded as Rowden, Kemp & Co. until the partnership was dissolved in 1907, and Rowden ran the business alone trading as "The Native Mineral Water Company". His son (also William) took over the business at some point and the company traded right up until 1928. So your bottle dates between 1907 and 1928.

The company used a few variations of codd bottle, along with an impresssed ginger beer and a nice printed flagon.



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Hi Stuart

Many thanks for getting back, the Whitstable codd is 9’’ tall or 23cms if your that way inclined, I’ll get a photo of the canterbury one & ping it over to you when I get 5, I would be happy to sell both and prefer them to go along and be part of an appreciated collection even though the local connection draws me to hold onto it.

It was so rewarding to find them together on the slopes as if back in the day someone enjoyed a drink and as too many folk these days do and rather than take the empties home they put them down a hole or divot to be overgrown and buried yet survived a beach hut post being dug only 6” away in the 50’s.

I’ll ping a photo over later this evening best m
Martin P
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This is the Canterbury ginger any info/offers appreciated http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/9a7a617a-fe16-499e-92ce-f4f.jpeg
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Thanks Martin. Both of them lovely bottles, and I would have been chuffed to bits to have dug them myself. I have sent you a PM.

The Codd is the commoner of the various versions they did I'm afraid, but still a lovely bottle to look at. It's such a shame they didn't do a ginger beer with that picture on!


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