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Posted By carlweirman 5/28/2019 4:33:37 PM
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 Posted 5/28/2019 4:33:37 PM
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Though not an ink, I picked this bottle up today, still in need of a good clean, any information about it would be appreciated.http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/cb22f3aa-9a2e-4fca-bbf8-80f9.jpg

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 Posted 5/28/2019 5:03:17 PM
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I think this one is commonly referred to as the 'Policeman' and pairs with a similar one called the 'Burglar'.
I believe like a lot of these small novelty figurals they contained small sweets such as 'hundreds and thousands' or sherbert'.
Forum member Cam collects these type of bottles and may be able to tell you more,
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 Posted 5/28/2019 5:47:23 PM
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I think about £20 each, I've got 2, one i bought, one i was gifted at a house in tottenham as a thankyou for sorting through an old diggers bottles and letting them know near enough everything was low value, plain keillers and stoneware and milk bottles filled a shed that had collapsed around them, and again, I also think their sweetie/sherbet bottles,

click a link below please, shows offenders images, see if you can spot anyone who may have tried to reinvent themself as someone else near you, putting those around you in danger as long as they are unknown, could be closer to you than you think, these type of people dont disclose, they do whatever they can to hide their past, but they are still the same, you could change someones life.
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Just seen this thread!

Colin is quite right in that they are normally associated with the 'burglar', though your policeman is the rarer of the two. They are often found with damage to the extremities where the glass is thin. Novelty burst lip figurals such as these were probably made at the end of the day, and can be found with potstone and kiln inclusions (I have a different shape with a kiln lining fragment lodged near the base!). You will often hear people say that the policeman and robber were produced as part of a set, but this is unlikely as the moulding and glass quality is quite different and they are rarely found together in dumps (what you would expect if they were purchased together).

We still do not know what they actually contained, but small sweets or perhaps a sherbet is most likely. Some people try their luck on Ebay by selling them as inks, but the crudity and instability of these novelty shapes combined with the often narrow lip openings would make them poor containers for such. Unless a labelled example appears we will probably never know, to my knowledge there is no record of them from the glasshouses.

Of all of the human figurals this is probably the second most common, the aqua robber being the most often seen. After that it would be the 'toff' (a posh gentlemen wearing a tailcoat), the clown (very hard to locate in good condition - i still don't own one), Queen Victoria (extremely rare, but a few have surfaced recently, in the £80-£100 bracket). I happen to own an extremely rare and very crude 'small boy' with a flared lip opening at the base, which Roger Pellow very kindly sold to me some years ago. I have only ever seen one other of these, they almost never surface.

There is also a blue robber which is believed to be unique, owned by forum member auld_boot if i recall (if he is reading this thread, i have cash waiting!). Figurals in general are like penny perfumes or inks to the extent that the first 5-10 are easy to source, and then after that you have all of your work ahead of you!

Value in todays market is £30-£60 depending on condition. I have a near perfect example on Ebay at £60 which is about right for its type.

Hope this helps!

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 Posted 5/31/2019 12:14:19 PM
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I won one on ebay bidding for about £14 plus postage made it about £20, thought they were worth more, and think they should be,

click a link below please, shows offenders images, see if you can spot anyone who may have tried to reinvent themself as someone else near you, putting those around you in danger as long as they are unknown, could be closer to you than you think, these type of people dont disclose, they do whatever they can to hide their past, but they are still the same, you could change someones life.
https://darkjustice.co.uk . . . . . . . . http://www.stinsonhunter.com . . . . https://darkjustice.co.uk/the-database
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Ahhh yes the Rules patent Novelty "dwarf bottle", still have n't managed to track down the patent spec. yet - over to you Cam!!

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 Posted 5/31/2019 8:48:07 PM
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Thanks everyone for all you information, much appreciated

Swansea and Llanelli ginger beers wanted.
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 Posted 6/2/2019 11:36:26 PM
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Dug this with Nat at Treharris a few years ago; I chucked it out, but didn't see it. Nat collared him before he rolled away:D

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 Posted 6/5/2019 8:21:47 AM
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Well collared Nat... good thread this
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 Posted 6/11/2019 9:10:17 PM
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I would have thought that the robber is harder to get than the police man?

The police man bottle regularly turns up in Victorian tips around Wolverhampton and is more often seen for sale on eBay. We dug a tip in Bilston last year and had at least half a dozen good examples of the policeman bottle.

The old dog track tip was also well known as a source of the Police man, one every dig as the old diggers tales go (huge pinch of salt!!).

There are also flintlock pistols and guns, as well as mini baby feeders, as well as a soldier and the gentleman.

A great collecting thread and popular in the recent auctions..


 


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