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The Long Eaton Blue Lips

Posted By Martiniman 12/16/2017 2:50:32 PM
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Most coloured lip cold collectors have a blue lip cold from the Long Eaton firms of W.Wright or W.J Hopps in their collections. Heres a potted history of the factory, based in the White Cross works, Orchard St Long Eaton.

The first company to operate from the works was the Mineral water company of H. Bromhead and A.Mann, a partnership dissolved on 7/11/1883, from when the company traded under the name of Frank Mann. (only Kings Patent bullet stoppers known from this firm)

The company was sold in 1886 to William Wright. Wrights T.M. was a white cross inside a shield, I used to own an coloured advert for Wright Wright, and can be found on a rare 6oz aqua codd.

William wright sold the Business to a former sea Captain William John Hopps on the 2/7/1891 for £700, who invested a further £200 capital. Hopps opened another branch on Sawley Rd. Advertising a Mineral Water Manufacturer & Beer Bottler, and continued with Wrights stock, and indeed the blue lipped codd theme.

http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/32a9517b-1942-406e-bf5e-8a7d.png

some Hopps bottles carry the A.11 area code, (ginger beer and plain codd)

Hopps business began to falter, on 17/7/1895 he offered the business for sale as a going concern, but the company failed on 27/7/1895 with liabilities of £1,170 8s 8d against assets of £763.12s.11d. Hopps claiming his debt was due to high interest he was paying on a loanhttp://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/a0c72497-d107-469c-be45-4347.jpg of £125 to a money Lender called Forrester. Hopps, who's home address was 16 Lime Grove Long Eaton, appeared before Derby Bankruptcy Court on the 20/8/1895 and declared bankrupt. The plant was offered for sale.
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The business was continued by an acquaintance of Hopps, John Henry Bodsworth. He moved the bottling business to Manchester Street Long Eaton, initially known as the Imperial Works although it later became known as "the White Cross Works", the name of the original Orchard Street factory. The White Cross works was sold on 15/6/1899, the contents were listed down to the hand barrows, but items of interest was a 4 horse power vertical boiler, a meadow croft steam filler, a Dan Rylands No3 soda plant and a Dan Ryland syrup plant, presumably these were from the original W.Wright works.

The works were purchased by Dalgleish and Sons, the well know Nottingham Mineral water company, who named the factory the Nervon Works. They continued until about 1935.

These 4 blue lips are all bottles I have dug myself, the two Hopps from the now built over Field Farm Road site, the Wrights from the now dug out Manchester St site. In 1990 the late George Bonson gave me a comprehensive list of the bottles he dug on the site, he found a total of 49 blue lips. In 1995 had the pleasure to complete the only untouched area of the site, I found an additional 17 blue lips, all W. Wright with the exception of 1 No 12oz Hopps, W Wrights examples.


There are to types of bottles known from Bodsworth both 6oz and 12oz regular redfearns Codds.

There are two types of White Cross Works codes, a 12oz acme and a 6oz regular codd.

So ended the 50 year mineral water dynasty, For 30 years I believed there were 6 mineral firms in the town I grew up in, but actually they were just one..under different ownership!.


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 Posted 12/16/2017 4:51:39 PM
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Very informative thanks for sharing.
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Great post martiniman, nice codds them too

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Nice bottles and info:cool:
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We need more post like that one in the forum and I might just have one for later on;). So well done with the background to those codds and the companies butty:cool: Good post, good story, fine codds.:satisfied:

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Love the information, hence my name on here. I'm from Long Eaton and have various bottles and other related items from the town in my collection. If you ever have anything from the town that you want to move on please let me know. I just missed out on the fields farm site before it was covered in concrete by the farmer. I used to go under the fence at the Manchester street site when I was a kid, back in 1982 and aged 12 I found my first blue lip codd, a 10oz hopps, it was just laying on the surface. I never got to dig that site. I did then spend every weekend and every night after school digging Grange park.
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It is lovely to see those blue lips together, I had a dig in Long Eaton in the the 80,s, I think it was the Manchester Rd. site, a patch of old orchard next to some houses, going from memory:)! It was pretty shallow like 3-5 foot, got some nice gear, but alas no blue lips:crying:!

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