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Baumbrough ointment lid & pot

Posted By bulbous neckus 10/21/2015 7:15:02 PM
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 Posted 10/21/2015 7:15:02 PM
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Thought I would post some pictures in this section of one those newly discovered Baumbrough pot lids complete with patent bases made by Maw, the well-known London manufacturing chemist suppliers. As we all now know they turned up on a stall at the Berkhampstead show, but quite a few had some form of chipping & poorly registered prints. They were discovered in the cellar of an old former grocer's shop in Leighton Buzzard, & were soon snapped up by eager dealers & collectors (including yours truly). This mini hoard is turning out to be quite a significant find, as far as I know the patent bases might also be unrecorded ? They are very similar to the Toogoods design, but the grooves in the edges are more like deep slots. Added to that there are no grooves in the lid themselves to be able to tie them down without the string slipping off, so at the moment there seems no point to the patent.

From Leighton Buzzard 1890 Kelly's Street Directory :

Baumbrough, William Henry, grocer, tea & general provision dealer, 19 High Street.









Wanted --- any unusual items from Kent & the South East, including advertising, early stoneware, & bottles (of course!).  Also rare patent poisons, early pontilled medicines, & rare burst lip/teakettle inks.

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 Posted 10/21/2015 7:35:59 PM
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As long as the string is secured at the bottom from slipping off, you don't need any slots in the lid, as it just can't be lifted away. I think it's a much better design than the Toogoods

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 Posted 10/21/2015 7:54:31 PM
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Agree Rog - I'll bet somewhere (in a museum draw) are such items neatly packaged…. but dunt warrant display?

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 Posted 10/21/2015 8:11:27 PM
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I have one of those bases in the shed.I will bring it along to the Oxford show for comparison.:)
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 Posted 10/21/2015 8:35:33 PM
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I managed to buy one of those lids with the same patent base..

I managed to get one with a clear print to as some were not that good...


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I must be missing something --- trying to tie it & with handling the string just keeps slipping off the top.

Wanted --- any unusual items from Kent & the South East, including advertising, early stoneware, & bottles (of course!).  Also rare patent poisons, early pontilled medicines, & rare burst lip/teakettle inks.

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 Posted 10/21/2015 8:48:46 PM
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If anyone is looking to buy one there is one on ebay....here is the link...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371466592050?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


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 Posted 10/21/2015 8:50:25 PM
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Images of some of the other lids from this hoard showing the varying quality of the transfer print
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 Posted 10/21/2015 9:09:00 PM
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Just what I love about this hobby "only one known", "rare as hens teeth" etc. - then someone finds another or more incredibly a "hoard". This is what keeps us looking, digging, collecting. That chance that one day......................:):):).....bingo!!!!! something special turns up, something that no one ever new existed or even thought would exist in multiples. In reality, even going way back in time - no bottle, lid etc. was ever produced as a one off (unless as a sample) - therefore, there is always that likelihood that another exists in someone else's collection, in someone's cellar, in a tip yet to be discovered - this is why we collect.
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awful looking lids, look homemade to me, some sort of experiments gone wrong!


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