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Posted By hilldene 7/15/2012 11:08:11 AM
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Having lived up in this neck of the wood for about 14 years now over the past few years I have been trying to add local made bottles to my collection, Stourbridge area is famous for glass making and has been doing so for 500/600 years, as the area has all the local ingredients for glass and pottery bottle making. The area is also known as the black country, some die hards will argue that Stourbridge does not lie in this region, though to be fair most of the bottle works were located in nearby Brierley Hill. The region is mainly known for coal and iron, so as a newcomer I was surprised to find it was also an area that produced glass and bottles. Sadly even over the last 14 years I have witnessed the demise of what was left of glass making in the area, only a handful of small local producers making cut crystal and most glass making centred on tourism, with the bottle makers long gone!

Anyway here are a few picks of items I have managed to aquire, please feel free to add any finds you may have and I am always interested in getting more items for the collection!;)

Westwood,Moor and Riders produced both glass and pottery bottles, based in Brierley hill, Pigots journal has listings for both in the 1820's and 1830's which is roughly the date of this Ginger having the "EX" excise duty stamp. Another example below minus the excise stamp.

Stourbridge is also well known for producing wine bottles for the colleges at Oxford (F. Banks) and again Westwood and Moore has been cited as producing college bottles, these two would fall into the right age group being 1820/40's but of course cannot be proved to come from this firm, but are likely to come from the area.

All Souls Common Room                               Trinity College Common Room

Westwood and Moores are also known to have produce early codd patents, licensed as Codd Patent 18's though very few bottles have their makers name embossed, One known is Gitto's of Wednesbury, Mark Potten has a plain codd with their name, here are some Codd 18's mainly local so can presume they were made locally too..

Crocketts of Worcester, fantastic pictorial.

Corbett Bromsgrove                                        Cleavers Leicester                                 

Other than Westwood Moores who where the largest bottle producers in the area Pigots journal also lists may other potters and glass makers who no doubt also made bottles, including blacking jars, inks and house hold items, there items are no doubt are lost in the sands of time, but here are a few more items I have managed to aquire..

H.Wassell and Co, very similar to the Westwood Moore & Rider design again around circa 1840/50

This Lamonts Patent with glass stopper from Morris Soda manufacturers Wednesbury is one of my favourite pieces, the glass is very crude and full of bubbles, embossed to the base Wright and co Glass makers Brierley Hill.  Mr Wright has had quite a lot documented as he ended up bankcrupt in the early 1900's though also possibly related was an early "Elf n Safety" incident where the glass kiln exploded and killed 2 workers!!

As well as bottles the area has produced a lot of flagons, most common stamp to find is from Lays Pottery, G.Carder and sons Brierley Hill, this firm was most likely one of the last producing stoneware as they were listed as operating up to the 1950's.. flagons pictured here are Mitchell and Butlers Birmingham, G. Watson Banbury and Trueman Brierley Hill.

There are of course always other bottles, Jars and flagons to surface, one new pottery that I have not seen listed in D.Askey's book on stone ware is this local find..

Looks like "Timmis" Stourbridge, flagon for E.Rutland, (which has a large chunk missing at the base:sick:)

If you have any more pictures of Stourbridge/Brierley Hill bottles please post them, I am always interested to see how much more stuff is out there!! Cheers Steve

 

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 Posted 7/15/2012 8:04:58 PM
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I know I've told you about this one Woody just not sure I have shown you any photo's - also an advert from the late 1870's ....

See you at Stratford .....  ;)

Codd & Blacking Greetings ..

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 Posted 7/15/2012 9:33:41 PM
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Mark Potten (15/07/2012)
I know I've told you about this one Woody just not sure I have shown you any photo's - also an advert from the late 1870's ....

See you at Stratford .....  ;)

Thanks Mark, see that the Patent 18 in your picture is a Stafford bottle, is this in your collection? great advert as well, what the heck is a carboy?  Cheers Steve

 

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Two Stourbridge porters, one with potters mark

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 Posted 7/15/2012 10:40:51 PM
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davesilcock (15/07/2012)
Two Stourbridge porters, one with potters mark

Cheers for the pictures, hard to read the potters mark but it looks like a wassel? fantastic porters :w00t:

 

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 Posted 7/16/2012 9:30:23 PM
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woody650 (15/07/2012)
Thanks Mark, see that the Patent 18 in your picture is a Stafford bottle, is this in your collection? great advert as well, what the heck is a carboy?  Cheers Steve

Hi Steve,  yep the patent 18 with Westwood & Moore on it is in my collection, if you look closely you'll see a crack that stops by the 2nd T of patent - well sadly it is now near the bottom of the bottle ....

& I always thought a carboy was just a big bottle as in 5 maybe upto 20 gallons in size (like a flagon but made of glass)!!!

Codd & Blacking Greetings ..

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Here is my latest addition to the collection, fresh from the Stratford show, a lucky buy as the stall holder was just packing up.. fantastic porter made by Westwood, Moore and Ryder.

Cheers Steve 

 

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Some fantastic items and pictures there....
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 Posted 8/6/2012 3:25:52 PM
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One more for your attention Woody, but semi covered in a previous thread:

http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/Forum/Topic191561-3-1.aspx?Highlight=brierley+hill

This is another Shropshire flagon with a clear but slightly different Brierley Hill potters stamp as mentioned before, it reads:

W. MACMILLAN & CO / DELPH POTTERIES / BRIERLEY HILL

I have found out that the proprietor W. LANE died in 1881 so that gives a rough date but i have no info on DELPH POTTERIES, do you?

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 Posted 8/7/2012 8:52:59 AM
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Thanks Dan, its a new one on me, though Pigots journal does list numerous potters from the area, I will have to check it out, Like the reference to the "Delph" pottery.

There were several in this area, the 1900's ordnance survey maps do show "bottle works" to the west side of Brierley hill. The "Black" Delph area was also heavily mined, it is also the area of the nine locks and canal so had good trade routes, these days it is best known for its pub crawls, starting at the top of the hill at the Corn exchange, working down to the the Vine (bull and bladder, home of Bathams brewery), the Black Horse, the Dock and Iron, the Tenth Lock and then the Bell.

Cheers Steve

 


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