Bottledigging UK



A Victorian Ointment Pot Checklist

Posted By MLZ 7/12/2012 11:28:03 PM
Rated 5 stars based on 1 vote.
Add to Favorites1
Author Message
MLZ
 Posted 7/12/2012 11:28:03 PM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (1,486 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 10/30/2019 3:05:32 AM
Posts: 38, Visits: 1,674
I created an Victorian Ointment Pot Checklist using data from the Ointment Bible "HISTORICAL GUIDE TO DELFTWARE AND VICTORIAN OINTMENT POTS" by R.J. Houghton & M.R. Priestley, Paul Barker’s website http://www.ointmentpots.com/ and some of my own research. Please download the attached spreadsheet or PDF. Please reply to this thread if you have pots that are not on this list and I will add them.

7/13/2012 Added:

The Original Indian Ointment, C. Tonge, Oldbury

Poor Woman's Friend. Price 1 1/2d. Prepared only by Jessie Lee , Surgeon, Castle Cary

12/17/2012 Added:

S. Green 2 Union Place c.1825 tinglazed Handwritten Wording?

Saunders Golden Ointment pot 1s / 11/2d a never failing remedy

3/4/2013 Changes:

Clarke's Miraculous Salve F.J. Clarke Consulting Chemist Price 2/9

Clarke's Miraculous Salve F.J. Clarke Consulting Chemist Price 4/6

Clarke's Miraculous Salve "Application" Price 4/6

Egyptian Salve Reade Brothers Chemists, High St, Wolverhapton Price 13½d, small size

Egyptian Salve Reade Brothers & Co Ltd Price 1/1½ Smallest size with Manufacturing Chemists instead of the street address "Trademark" at top.

Olivarium, Prepared by Freeman, Highstreet Nottinghill

Singleton's Golden Ointment - Block font Split by font

Singleton's Golden Ointment - Script Font

Reworded Jamison Brothers: recessed & straight sided

10/14/2013

Added "Scarcity" from Alan Blakeman's"Collectors Guide to Ointments" 1996
The Original Indian Ointment, Prepared by C. Tonge,Oldbury

3/19/2014
Fredk. W. Hale Natures Herbal Ointment Price 2s 9d 61Chandos St Largest of the two sizes Vertical Print Variation with 'ADDRESS'instead of 'Prepared by the Proprietor'

5/15/2014
Split into 2 early Poor Man Friends: Houghton lists thelarger pot at 3.6 cm (h) , 4.4.cm (d) and Alan Blakemen's book has the smallerlisted at 3.3 cm (h), 3.8 cm (d). The owner of the pots said "The smallerpot is 33mm high, 32mm diameter (base) and the larger pot is 37mm high, 40mmdiameter (base)"

7/13/2014
Hoods Universal Ointment
No Name E.B. Whitehouse Ltd Bearwood Smethwick Price 9 1/2 d

8/28/2014
Hubbard's Valuable Ointment Chemist Downham Mark-Impressed lettering

4/2/2015
Jane Glovers Ointment (from Gippsland, Victoria,Australia)
LL Smiths - Split into two lines: Rolled Lip (39 mm) andwith Lid (51 mm with lid in place)

4/30/2015
Prepared By Clement & Johnson "Yadil"Antiseptic Jelly (Houghton listed "Sole Manufactures")
Changed Brand from "Clement & Johnson" to"Yadil" and the sort of checklist (per Houghton)

2/21/2016
There are 6 Clarke's Cure pots 3 sizes with 2 prints: either "Abscesses" or "Abcesses" - Split Clarke's Miraculous Salve "Cure" Price 2/9 and 4/6 "Abscesses" and "Abcesses". The older Consulting Chemist pots have "Abcesses" and the later Best Application pots have "Abscesses" so I assume "Abcesses" is earlier.
Fixed Scarcity on the Yadil pots
Added 'Beach & Barnicott, Successors to Dr. Roberts, Bridport Price 1/1½ Recessed rim black triangle either side of the company name blotting out 'Ltd' Black Print
3/22/2016
added No Name Whitehouse Deritend Entered At Stationers Hall Price 7 1/2d
10/10/2016
Split Holloway's Ointment No Prices Snake design inner circle into "double line circlular outer border" and "single line circlular outer border"
4/8/2017
Added Holloways Ointment, 533 Oford Street (missing "X") From AA Auctions lot 226: A possibly unique variation of this otherwise very familiar Victorian Ointment Pot featuring Hygeia, in that it has the address clearly misspelt as '533 Oford Street' - This does happen sometimes with some misalignment of print (where you can see a 'fold' or line in the printing), wheras this one very clearly has a spelling error instead.
http://potlidcircle.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/598f8f05b0e22_15_zpsvck2r7jm1.jpg.3fd8ab00acfbff2b893f99ee7f121fa9.jpg,http://potlidcircle.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/598f8ef71b1a1_12_zpsykepui991.jpg.2e3da07c285b6f14aef0aaa272031827.jpg
8/14/2017
Added London Hospital blue script print from http://potlidcircle.com/index.php?/topic/905-hospital-ointment-pots/
1/20/2018
Added Black print, Recessed Rim Beach and Barnicott, no 'LTD' or triangles.
Added "Ltd" to description after "Beach & Barnicott" for 2 Robert's Black pots
2/1/2018
removed 4/8/17 Oford pot
Added heights from Houghton for the 5 McKinnon pots
7/28/2018 - added from Historical Guide to Advertizing Pot Lids
Added Eberlays Ointment
Changed Brand from Indian to Tonge
3/24/2019
Added "F.J. Clarke Consulting Chemist Price 2/6 (misprint ?)"

 Ointment Master Checklist.pdf (0 views, 426.11 KB)
 Ointment Master Checklist.xls (0 views, 4.27 MB)
The Old Ruminator
 Posted 7/13/2012 11:16:10 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 2 days ago @ 9:13:45 PM
Posts: 1,639, Visits: 4,836
Thanks for that. I think it is important to keep source books and lists updated and a forum is the ideal way to do it.
I have a Dr Tibbald's pot from here in Taunton. Only one I have ever recorded dug here though a couple may have come from the Swindon area.

One I recorded many years ago is-

"Poor Woman's Friend, Price ( one and a penny halfpenny ). Prepared only by Jessie Lee ( or Lees ) surgeon, Castle Carey."

I think its a direct rip off of Poor Man's Friend as the writing is in blue on a same size pot.

I have not, as yet , found any references to a Jessie Lee ( Lees? ) at Castle Carey in Somerset.

The Old Ruminator
 Posted 7/13/2012 11:45:14 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (57,772 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 2 days ago @ 9:13:45 PM
Posts: 1,639, Visits: 4,836



MLZ
 Posted 7/13/2012 2:11:28 PM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (1,486 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 10/30/2019 3:05:32 AM
Posts: 38, Visits: 1,674
Paul has a Tibbalds on his web site https://sites.google.com/site/ointmentpots/victorian/dr-tibbalds but not the Poor Womans Friend which I will add along with the recently found "Indian Ointment"
MLZ
 Posted 1/18/2018 9:38:22 PM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (1,486 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 10/30/2019 3:05:32 AM
Posts: 38, Visits: 1,674
Updates since 4/30/2015

There are 6 Clarke's Cure pots 3 sizes with 2 prints: either "Abscesses" or "Abcesses" - Split Clarke's Miraculous Salve "Cure" Price 2/9 and 4/6 "Abscesses" and "Abcesses". The older Consulting Chemist pots have "Abcesses" and the later Best Application pots have "Abscesses" so I assume "Abcesses" is earlier.

Fixed Scarcity on the Yadil pots

Added 'Beach & Barnicott, Successors to Dr. Roberts, Bridport Price 1/1½ Recessed rim black triangle either side of the company name blotting out 'Ltd' Black Print

added No Name Whitehouse Deritend Entered At Stationers Hall Price 7 1/2d

Split Holloway's Ointment No Prices Snake design inner circle into "double line circlular outer border" and "single line circlular outer border"

Added Holloways Ointment, 533 Oford Street (missing "X") From AA Auctions lot 226: A possibly unique variation of this otherwise very familiar Victorian Ointment Pot featuring Hygeia, in that it has the address clearly misspelt as '533 Oford Street' - This does happen sometimes with some misalignment of print (where you can see a 'fold' or line in the printing), wheras this one very clearly has a spelling error

Added London Hospital blue script print from http://potlidcircle.com/index.php?/topic/905-hospital-ointment-pots/

Added Black print, Recessed Rim Beach and Barnicott, no'LTD' or triangles.

Added "Ltd" to description after "Beach &Barnicott" for 2 Robert's Black pots

 Ointment Master Checklist Change Log.pdf (16 views, 390.66 KB)
 Ointment Master Checklist.pdf (6 views, 389.71 KB)
expat
 Posted 1/19/2018 7:19:57 PM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 8/22/2019 6:34:13 PM
Posts: 1,696, Visits: 40,788
Beach and Barnicott, no 'LTD' or triangles. Nothing.





Veni Vidi Velcro. I came I saw I stuck around.
Poacher
 Posted 2/14/2018 12:45:33 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 11/10/2019 3:30:54 PM
Posts: 6,400, Visits: 30,375
I sold a similar one a few months ago Simon and it made over £30, but I dont know why.:D They are not really my subject tbh.

http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/3d940311-d8e2-4629-8305-6ec9.JPGhttp://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/5a6f259e-5fca-4dbf-972c-472f.JPG


http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/2e09089c-b129-46b1-a5cf-16d9.jpg

Dedicated to Neath area bottles, flagons etc.



expat
 Posted 2/14/2018 7:30:31 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (53,284 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 8/22/2019 6:34:13 PM
Posts: 1,696, Visits: 40,788
Does that example have the word 'Ltd' after 'Barnicott' ?



Veni Vidi Velcro. I came I saw I stuck around.
Poacher
 Posted 2/14/2018 9:58:23 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (235,044 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 11/10/2019 3:30:54 PM
Posts: 6,400, Visits: 30,375
I dont recall seeing 'Ltd' on it Simon, but I know it came from my hometown tip which averaged 1911 or so. ;)

http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/2e09089c-b129-46b1-a5cf-16d9.jpg

Dedicated to Neath area bottles, flagons etc.



Arsen Grubsucker
 Posted 2/14/2018 11:04:59 AM
Blue Hybrid

Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)Blue Hybrid - (14,345 reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Last Active: 9/3/2019 5:40:29 PM
Posts: 287, Visits: 3,906
Hi, this is a Yadil pot I have, don't know if it had a printed lid or maybe a paper label ?.

http://www.bottledigging.org.uk/forum/Uploads/Images/c43d627f-08d7-4647-96f8-2c8e.jpg

Back To Top